CA Pushes Ingres Out

By Lisa Vaas  |  Posted 2005-11-07 Print this article Print

of the Nest"> Ingres will also focus on BI (Business Intelligence), she said. That focus will serve to push the database out of the realm of OLTP solution, where CA has positioned it until now, she said. "BI is a place where it performs well," she said, particularly with partitioning and parallel processing capabilities CA has added in order to build out its BI capabilities.
Dargo said that licensing will be another focus for change, as the company seeks to drive greater adoption and better distribution by making Ingres the easiest database to deploy—not just from a technology perspective but from a business perspective as well.
"Various licensing [models] will make it easier to deploy in the GPL world while still keeping the ability of ISVs to bundle and work with Ingres in an embedded market," he said. When CA released Ingres code in May, it created a new license for the unveiling: the CA Trusted Open Source License. The one downside of the CA TOSL, Dargo said, is that somebody with a GPL licensed product cant use it, since GPL stipulates that everything it covers also be under GPL. Hence, the market has seen a good deal of alternative licenses, or dual-licensing, he said. In the tradition of dual-licensing schemes such as that of MySQL AB, Ingres will be looking at licensing models that allow it to get into the GPL community and to still maintain what he calls the friendliness for community that CA TOSL maintains. Friendliness aside, the Ingres move is obviously targeted at Oracle, Bloor said. "Its interesting, the number of Oracle people whove jumped onboard," he said. "Its quite obvious this company is going to target Oracle directly." Dargo is just one ex-Oracle heavyweight. Others on the new staff include Andy Allbritten, who was most recently with Oracle as group vice president, Support Services and at PeopleSoft as managing director, group vice president, Support Services, Worldwide Sales & Operations. Dargo said that the Oracle reunion is just reflective of the fact that "when you really want to bring good talent together, Oracle really crated a lot of that talent. Its an opportunity for us to get back together and get re-energized," he said. Besides, Barrenechea said, Ingres is pulling in talent from other big software companies, including Microsoft. As far as applying lessons to the new venture that he learned at Oracle and as a consultant around venture capital and startups, Dargo said hes realized a lot of customers have a lot of issues when it comes to negotiating closed-source licensing and support contracts. "The real opportunity here is taking a great technology base that Ingres represents and applying a little different business model to it, something really attractive to the enterprise database market," he said. "Theyre looking for relief from some of the types of pricing and support negotiations they have to go through with closed-source databases. When they see theres an open-source alternative that has that capability, theres a tremendous opportunity for us." Check out eWEEK.coms for the latest database news, reviews and analysis.

Lisa Vaas is News Editor/Operations for and also serves as editor of the Database topic center. Since 1995, she has also been a Webcast news show anchorperson and a reporter covering the IT industry. She has focused on customer relationship management technology, IT salaries and careers, effects of the H1-B visa on the technology workforce, wireless technology, security, and, most recently, databases and the technologies that touch upon them. Her articles have appeared in eWEEK's print edition, on, and in the startup IT magazine PC Connection. Prior to becoming a journalist, Vaas experienced an array of eye-opening careers, including driving a cab in Boston, photographing cranky babies in shopping malls, selling cameras, typography and computer training. She stopped a hair short of finishing an M.A. in English at the University of Massachusetts in Boston. She earned a B.S. in Communications from Emerson College. She runs two open-mic reading series in Boston and currently keeps bees in her home in Mashpee, Mass.

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