Nvidia, Torvalds Spar Over GPU Maker's Support of Linux

 
 
By Jeffrey Burt  |  Posted 2012-06-21 Email Print this article Print
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Linus Torvalds, the chief architect of the Linux kernel, railed against Nvidia for its approach to Linux. Nvidia officials said they won’t change the way they support Linux.

Nvidia officials are not going to change the way they approach Linux, regardless of the obscenity-laced rant aimed at it by the man who helped create the open-source Linux kernel, Linus Torvalds.

Speaking at the Aalto Centre for Entrepreneurship in Finland June 14, Torvalds was asked about Nvidia and its lack of support for Linux. Torvalds, whose talk was taped, tore into Nvidia, noting that the graphics chip maker still does little to support the open-source technology while at the same time trying to court the Android device space with its Tegra line of chips based on ARM Holdings€™ designs.

€œI know exactly what you€™re talking about,€ Torvalds said in answering the question. €œI€™m very happy to say that it€™s the exception rather than the rule, and I€™m also very happy to point out that Nvidia has been one of the worst trouble spots we€™ve had with hardware manufacturers. That is really sad because Nvidia has tried to sell a lot of chips in to the Android market, and Nvidia has been the single worst company we€™ve ever dealt with, so Nvidia, [expletive] you.€

 He then turned to the camera and showed his middle finger.

Torvalds€™ brief tirade garnered a lot of attention, but it took Nvidia officials several days to respond. The response essentially was that nothing€™s changing.

€œWhile we understand that some people would prefer us to provide detailed documentation on all of our GPU internals, or be more active in Linux kernel community development discussions, we have made a decision to support Linux on our GPUs by leveraging Nvidia common code, rather than the Linux common structure,€ they said in a prepared response. €œWhile this might not please everyone, it does allow us to provide the most consistent GPU experience to our customers, regardless of platform or operating system.€

Nvidia officials noted that their Optimus notebook technology supports only Microsoft€™s Windows 7, but noted that the open-source community worked around that with the help of the Bumblebee Open Source Project. In response, Nvidia made changes to the installer and readme files in some drivers that made working with Bumblebee easier.

 They argued that because of such steps as offering greater support for Bumblebee and using the Nvidia common code, Linux users get same-day support for new GPUs, OpenGL parity between Windows and Linux support from Nvidia, and equal OpenGL performance between Windows and Linux on Nvidia products.

In addition, a wide range of Nvidia GPUs€”including the latest GeForce, Quadro and Tesla graphics chips€”support Linux in notebooks and desktops, and that Nvidia is an active participant in the ARM Linux kernel.

€œAt the end of the day, providing a consistent GPU experience across multiple platforms for all of our customers continues to be one of our key goals,€ the Nvidia officials said.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

0 Comments for "Nvidia, Torvalds Spar Over GPU Maker's Support of Linux"

  • Simon Waddington June 27, 2012 3:44 am

    I'm no expert just a consumer but I think nVidia has done some great things to advance 3D graphics technology. However as a Linux desktop user I'm very happy that I can comfortably get away using standard Intel integrated graphics and nowadays unless you're a PC gamer that pretty much applies to everyone else....

  • Russell McOrmond June 26, 2012 4:51 pm

    Frustrating. Linus was talking about support the open-source technology and they think offering closed source that happens to run on some specialized Linux binary builds is even on-topic to what he was saying. Some of the comment here are equally off-topic. Linus isn't asking NVideo to write a line of code for any specific OS regardless of perceived and by the way incorrect market share.. We are asking for documentation for the hardware we are buying something that should be considered basic to protect the interests of any hardware owner. What we are asking for isn't about Linux at all but ensuring that hardware owners can make their own software choices --- regardless of whether that is Linux or any other OS. This isn't a Linux story even if Linus is quoted. This is a hardware property rights issue that is operating system agnostic. ...

  • Gerry Creager June 26, 2012 3:13 pm

    I don't think I'd have stated things quite as forcefully as Linus but I tend to agree with him. I still prefer their graphics capabilities and CUDA but I hate having to work through tainted drivers and around bugs in their stuff. All because they're too big/good to really work with open-source? ...

  • Jack Craig June 25, 2012 4:40 pm

    I feel its appropriate that nvidia to share M$'s fate of circling the drain with their consistent customer experience....

  • Ed Braiter June 25, 2012 3:23 pm

    Hmmmm. Shows you that Torvalds still needs to grow up. Should Nvidia really support a fractured OS that combined can't muster up 1.2% of the OS market share and hasn't grown in many years?...

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