Dr. August-Wilhelm Scheer puts his company, IDS Scheer, at the center of the software world.
Maybe IDS Scheer is the hidden jewel of the software
world. Maybe it is the hidden champion of the overall enterprise (and service-oriented
architecture) infrastructure. Maybe it is not a bad thing to have more on the
back than you have on the front.
So says Dr. August-Wilhelm Scheer, founder,
chairman and chief technology advisor of IDS Scheer, a business process
modeling software and services company based in Saarbr??cken, Germany. Scheer
developed the ARIS concept at
the Institut f??r Wirtschaftsinformatik (Institute for Information Systems),
followed by the ARIS software,
which helps diagram business processes. The process documents are created in ARIS
and then turned over to another vendor-IDS Scheer has partnerships with SAP,
Oracle, Microsoft, Tibco Software and Hewlett-Packard, among others-for
translation into IT systems. Yet few people actually know the company's name.
During a recent conversation with eWEEK Senior Writer
Renee Boucher Ferguson at IDS Scheer's ProcessWorld user conference Feb. 13 to
15 in Orlando, Fla., Scheer made a case for his company's place at the center
of the software world.
Maybe we are the hidden champion. Maybe it is not a bad thing to have more
on the back than you have on the front. But you are right; we have big
customers, big names, like Boeing. For a small company that's not bad to have these
customers. But in many cases we are not as well known as we wish. That's true.
Also in some cases the customers do not really understand how these
partnerships with these big companies work. Do we support each other, or is
there overlap between them, or is there some competition between them? So
sometimes it's very difficult for the customers to understand.
But our position is very clear. That we do not go to the level of execution
in the sense that we want to run our business software like SAP
or like Oracle. Our philosophy is to be on top of these systems. Our BPM
[business process modeling] suite helps customers to optimize the BPM process
and then they can implement the processes with these just-mentioned software
On the other hand with our BPM suite we see that we more and
more [we must] go to the execution layer, but in a different sense. You see
many customers have some issues which are not covered by SAP,
which are not covered by Oracle, and so I think in the future-the future is not
in the next month, maybe in a year-it will be possible that we can directly use
our process models for deriving software based on SOA architectures so that you
can directly, from our models, also derive the execution layer for very lean
applications. I think this is our chance.
Is it the partnership
with E2E or another vendor that will get you to the point of having an
execution engine, or are you developing internally?
There are several of our partners with which we have this link to the
execution layer. There are workflow vendors like Tibco and others, and also
E2E, this is another solution. And they have understood the philosophy to bring
the process models alive-that's very good and we partner with them. But for
specific applications we are also free to follow our own way. We will not
compete directly with them but we have to think about our own strategy, our own