The Best Thing That Can Happen'

By Darryl K. Taft  |  Posted 2011-05-04 Print this article Print


Jason van Zyl, chief technology officer at Sonatype and founder of the Apache Maven project, told eWEEK he believes "Hudson going to Eclipse is the best thing that can happen. It's vendor neutral, it has a good governance framework and has the best legal framework."

In addition, van Zyl said Sonatype plans to donate all of its core Hudson innovations to Eclipse in hopes of meeting developers needs and attracting more enterprise-class contributors to the project. This includes all of the Maven 3.x integration work done to date.  Van Zyl said Sonatype's original plan was to donate only a portion of the commercial work to the project but because of the excitement about Hudson moving to Eclipse that the company wants to stimulate adoption, and therefore contributions, by providing the best Maven integration possible.

"We believe that Hudson at Eclipse is the best thing for the Hudson User Community and hope that it will bring back users, mend the fork and help drive continued innovation and adoption," van Zyl said. "I'm going to try to invite the Jenkins folks back to the project. This could be the thing that unifies the projects back together."

Al Hilwa, an analyst at IDC, said, "Eclipse is a good home for an enterprise oriented product. I think there has been a lot of misinterpretation of Oracle's intent on this. I don't think they ever wanted to commercialize Hudson per se as much as make it more suitable for commercial and enterprise use and broaden its adoption. I think most Hudson users are going along with the Oracle strategy and generally want a more organized and stable evolution cycle of the code and a more transparent governance model. Moving it to Eclipse, and getting IBM and VMware on board amongst a set of partners, is a move in the right direction and food for everyone."

Oracle has run into problems with the Java and open-source communities over various aspects of its stewardship of Java and projects such as Hudson.

"It is important to recognize that this is a big step for Oracle. As an Eclipse project, no one company will own or control all of the intellectual property rights in the code," Milinkovich told eWEEK. "The Hudson trademark will become the property of the Eclipse Foundation to hold in trust for the community. These are dramatic changes in the governance of Hudson, ones which demonstrate that Oracle is committed to doing the right thing for the Hudson community."

"I think it was necessary to diffuse the -anti-Oracle' angle from the debate," Mark Driver, an analyst at Gartner, told eWEEK. "Oracle has no intention of commercializing Hudson so it makes sense. There is also precedent with EclipseLink as well. I think this is the only way to create a true community around the Oracle/Hudson side of the fork. Who knows, maybe the Jenkins folks will embrace the Eclipse project and reunify the whole thing?"

Milinkovich added, "Oracle has certainly taken some lumps for their handling of open-source communities, hopefully they will get the kudos they deserve in this case. In particular, I would like to point out the effort that they have put into seeking the collaboration and support of Sonatype, Tasktop, VMware, Intuit and IBM. Eclipse Hudson is showing immediate signs of growth and diversity."

Darryl K. Taft covers the development tools and developer-related issues beat from his office in Baltimore. He has more than 10 years of experience in the business and is always looking for the next scoop. Taft is a member of the Association for Computing Machinery (ACM) and was named 'one of the most active middleware reporters in the world' by The Middleware Co. He also has his own card in the 'Who's Who in Enterprise Java' deck.

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