Marten Mickos's Challenge
The CEO of Eucalyptus talks about open source and the future of cloud computing.I’m in the lobby of the San Francisco office of Benchmark Capital, the venture capital firm, and the lobby guard is speaking to me in apologetic tones. He says he’s sorry he had to so carefully inspect me before allowing me on the elevator. He had checked my name on the visitor list, peered at my ID, given me the once over. The problem, he explains, is that people walk in and want to give their pitch for a startup. Benchmark – the firm’s $6.7 million investment in eBay in 1997 earned it $5 billion by 1999 – inspires plenty of dreamers with business plans. My time with the guard is brief yet Benchmark is central to this story. I’m here to interview Marten Mickos, CEO of Eucalyptus, an open source cloud vendor funded by Benchmark and other investors. As Mickos explains, “We’ve raised a ton of capital, so we have time to sit here and improve the product and wait for the market to be ready for what we have for them.”
The relationship between cloud computing and open source has its pluses and minuses, Mickos notes.
“Five years ago, we saw [cloud] as…a potential risk for open source,” he says. The worry was that outfits building cloud services wouldn’t share code because they’re not actually shipping software.
In some cases those worries have come true. “You go and look at fantastic companies like Box, Dropbox, Zendesk, Salesforce, Workday, NetSuite…Are they sharing their code with the world? No. So, you could say, all these brave new companies with the best software engineers, how can they stay so closed? And that’s sort of a negative.”
On the upside, the sheer magnitude of new cloud services companies is fueling open source. “It turns out they need so much software that there is a huge opportunity for database vendors, cloud platform vendors, networking software vendors, and storage software vendors to provide and sell their open source software. So, I do think it’s strengthening open source.”
As for private cloud adoption, Mickos is frank about the fact that it’s faced resistance among businesses.
“We thought that private cloud would be a massive market, and so far we’ve been wrong. And I believe it’s a traditional S-curve. Initially, you have this exuberance and excitement, everybody thinks it’s a big, big business coming, and then actually the curve goes down before it starts growing.”
This sense of a market that has yet to fully emerge runs throughout the industry, he says. “Everybody believed in it. Everybody’s throwing billions into it. Where’s the business? I mean, there’s no business yet that would warrant a billion dollar investment in private cloud. Yet three companies [IBM, Cisco, HP] have already committed a billion.”
Part of the reason it’s taken time for the market to arrive has been the vendors themselves, he says. “I think that many of us early vendors, we had products that didn’t…weren’t good enough. Ours wasn’t good enough. OpenStack isn’t good enough. VMware’s isn’t good enough. BMC doesn’t really have a cloud platform. IBM’s SmartCloud isn’t good enough.”
The Road to Ease of Use
To address this early product immaturity, two years ago Eucalyptus took a hard look in the mirror.
“In 2012 we did a bunch of proof of concepts, and most of them failed,” Mickos says. “Test after test came back and the customers said, ‘No. It’s not working for us.’”
It was time for a change. “We said, ‘Okay. Let’s stop this. Let’s go back, do our homework, focus on the product, make sure that the product is really solid. And then we go back to customers.’”