's Benioff Rips Oracle, Microsoft, Again

By Clint Boulton  |  Posted 2011-12-01's Benioff Rips Oracle, Microsoft, Again

NEW YORK - If there was a theme for (NYSE:CRM) CEO Marc Benioff's question and answer session at Cloudforce here Nov. 30, it was how to run an enterprise software business that is vastly different from the world Oracle (NASDAQ:ORCL) and Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) dominated.

Noting that Oracle appears to simply want to sell database computers and that Microsoft's approach for "Windows everywhere" has run its course, Benioff referred to the new business software world as the "social enterprise."

In a nutshell, it's selling customer relationship software as a service online through a Web browser on any device, from desktops to smartphones and tablets. then augments that service through social technologies, such as status updates and file sharing.

Benioff and his team launched their most ambitious social enterprise effort yet today in the form of the Social Marketing Cloud, which is grounded in the company's Radian6 software, acquired earlier this year for $326 million. Radian6 builds social monitoring, engagement and analytics tools to help companies better understand the market's perception of their brands, and how to use that information to better appeal to customers.

True to his allegiance to mobile as the viable platform of the future for enterprise applications, Benioff and Co. also made their AppExchange store available on Apple's (NASDAQ:AAPL) iPhones and iPads, as well as on Google's Android smartphones and tablets.

While Benioff breezed through two hours of customer and product success stories, ranging from the Chatter social collaboration platform, to, the Heroku Ruby on Rails development platform among other toolsets, he preserved his snarky self for the Q&A for press and analysts later here at Cloudforce.

Per custom, he bashed Oracle and Microsoft and praised Facebook, which he holds up as the consumer operating system of the future, as well as the platform through which he bets his customers market themselves and engage with their own customers.

For example, Benioff said that despite Oracle's acquisition of RightNow Technologies in an apparent bid to gun for's software-as-a-service (SaaS) CRM business, RightNow's product isn't that good. Both Zynga and Electronic Arts, he noted, terminated their deals with RightNow to get on

What about Oracle's strategy to challenge Benioff said it looks like Oracle just wants to keep selling companies database computers. "I don't know what their strategy is," he said, adding that perhaps Oracle wants to be the Teradata of the 21st century.

He also repeated a rumor he'd heard that Oracle was jettisoning its CRM on Demand software and moving the existing customers to its Fusion platform, which he noted was not a multi-tenant cloud.

Generally, repeating rumors about rivals is taboo for CEOs, but Benioff is no traditional CEO. He noted that perhaps Oracle CEO Larry Ellison is turning his company into a "scavenger" of dead or dying companies.

Benioff Calls Microsoft Irrelevant


The mercurial executive was equally hard on rival Microsoft, whose Dynamics CRM product challenges. Benioff believes Microsoft hitched its wagon to Windows for far too long and noted that the company hasn't had any marked success stories in the enterprise of late. 

The company, he said, is known for being closed, which is why developers have moved to open-source development tools such as Ruby on Rails. Asked about Windows Azure, he flipped the question back, calling on the audience to name Azure's three biggest customers.

Another dart: "Microsoft also has a tablet by the way. They've got a phone. ... They've got a lot of 'em in a warehouse." The remark was a not-so-subtle shot at Microsoft's Windows Mobile/Phone market share.

He also said Microsoft Windows 8, the next-generation operating system, is a big "who cares?" and that Facebook, Google and Twitter are the companies that interest him most.

"I think they've lost they're relevancy," Benioff said of Microsoft. "I just don't think they matter anymore." He finished his anti-Microsoft rant by saying he has "no affection" for the company.

Miscellaneous Tidbits

Benioff discussed several other points during his Q&A.

  • Asked about's return on investment, Benioff called on Nucleus Research analyst Rebecca Wettemann to speak on his behalf. Wettemann revealed that 70 or so case study audits said that for every $1 spent on CRM, customers reported getting $5 and change back on their investment.
  • Benioff also noted that with the new Social Marketing Cloud, has moved to a social enterprise license, which lets businesses buy software deployments rather than just sample with per-user pricing. "Customers want to buy in bulk instead of per-user pricing," Benioff said.
  •'s task management application it acquired from ManyMoon, moved to its Heroku platform and rewrote in HTML5-is launching in a few weeks.
  • is building Connect, which leverages REST API to let Chatter connect between and other third-party services. Think Facebook Connect, but for  
  • has acquired the domain, but does not yet have a product strategy for it-at least, none that Benioff or his cohorts were inclined to divulge at Cloudforce.




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