Close
  • Latest News
  • Artificial Intelligence
  • Video
  • Big Data and Analytics
  • Cloud
  • Networking
  • Cybersecurity
  • Applications
  • IT Management
  • Storage
  • Sponsored
  • Mobile
  • Small Business
  • Development
  • Database
  • Servers
  • Android
  • Apple
  • Innovation
  • Blogs
  • PC Hardware
  • Reviews
  • Search Engines
  • Virtualization
Read Down
Sign in
Close
Welcome!Log into your account
Forgot your password?
Read Down
Password recovery
Recover your password
Close
Search
Logo
Logo
  • Latest News
  • Artificial Intelligence
  • Video
  • Big Data and Analytics
  • Cloud
  • Networking
  • Cybersecurity
  • Applications
  • IT Management
  • Storage
  • Sponsored
  • Mobile
  • Small Business
  • Development
  • Database
  • Servers
  • Android
  • Apple
  • Innovation
  • Blogs
  • PC Hardware
  • Reviews
  • Search Engines
  • Virtualization
More
    Home Applications
    • Applications

    Sun Systems Promise to Cut Customer Costs, Complexity

    Written by

    Peter Galli
    Published September 16, 2003
    Share
    Facebook
    Twitter
    Linkedin

      eWEEK content and product recommendations are editorially independent. We may make money when you click on links to our partners. Learn More.

      Sun Microsystems Inc. on Tuesday will use its premier user show, Sun Network, to introduce six new network computing systems that will form part of the Sun Java System family.

      CEO Scott McNealy and Jonathan Schwartz, the network computing companys executive vice president for software, will announce in their keynote addresses at the San Francisco show the six systems: the Sun Java Enterprise System, formerly known as Project Orion; the Sun Java Desktop System, formerly known as Project Mad Hatter; Java Studio, designed for developers; Sun Java Mobility System; the Sun Java Card System; and Sun N1 for dynamic and utility computing, which retains its name and branding.

      “We believe that in order for the network to continue to grow, we need network computing infrastructure—the software—to fuel that growth,” Sun software director Ingrid van den Hoogen told eWEEK on Monday. “We believe that its going to take a new type of system to do that, and so we are going to be introducing six new systems on Tuesday morning. We have reduced the cost and taken out the complexity for customers, who will get a more simple solution.”

      Sun will also introduce its new pricing model for these systems, which will be based on a per-employee basis. The Sun Java Enterprise System will cost $100 per employee per year. Customers can cancel at any time: If this happens during the first two years, they will not be able to use the system or any of its components. But, after three years, customers can do a perpetual buy-out and get minimal service like bug fixes and the like.

      The first components to be included in the system will be the Directory, the Application server, the portal, the meta-directory and high-availability Sun clusters. Those will be available in November, and updates will be made every 90 days thereafter.

      “Over time we will populate that further and will add more components and capabilities over the next year. We are also setting directions for things like peer-to-peer and grid, while provisioning servers and so forth will all be included over the next 12 to 18 months. We havent talked about many of these things as yet,” she said.

      All six systems will include not just the software but also base-level services and support, available during normal work hours, and training, the level of which depends on how many employees are signed up for the system. Premium service, available 24-by-7, will be available for $10 more an employee.

      “This is an annual fee and can be canceled at any time. We are not going to audit customers, and we will use the figure for the number of employees each company has from their annual SEC disclosures. So if the company has added or reduced staff, we will only revise our numbers at renewal time,” van den Hoogen said.

      Next page: When the price is right.

      The Price Is Right

      Sun has already signed up a number of customers van den Hoogen said, showing them that its solution is more affordable than anything from its competitors. The price is also compelling versus buying the individual components from Sun, she said.

      “We understand that there are organizations that may, say, only have 500 employees and no customers on the Web. In that case, this is probably not the product for them. But if you are a large service provider or telco and servicing millions of customers, then this is an outstanding deal for you,” she said.

      Because of the annual renewal nature of this revenue stream, this has the potential to generate a sustainable, quantifiable revenue flow for the company, something that would be looked at positively by Wall Street financial analysts, partners and customers.

      In another move away from past traditions, Suns entire sales force, including its direct and indirect channels, will now have the ability to sell the entire system. In the past, the company had restricted certain products to certain channels, including its own sales force.

      “Looking at the number of employees our current top customers have, were talking about close to 100 million. If you multiply that by $100, you can see the potential here. Im not saying thats going to happen the first year, but every existing Sun customer is a potential Java Enterprise System customer, and there are also potential new customers interested in the system,” van den Hoogen said.

      Another advantage of the system is that Sun has integrated out complexity on the system level, with all the components integrated together. It will run on Solaris with SPARC, x86 and Linux, although the Linux distribution will lag Solaris by a quarter, she said.

      The product has just gone to beta, she said, adding that customers can order it now, but it wont ship until November.

      Next page: Suns alternative desktop strategy.

      The Alternative Desktop

      The Sun Java Desktop System, the companys “alternative desktop” strategy, is also priced at $100 per user per year and includes service, support, software and training. This desktop is based on open source software from GNOME to Mozilla, StarOffice, Ximian Inc.s Evolution and Linux. But van den Hoogen declined to say what standard version of Linux will be used, adding that this will not be announced this week.

      While there will be no volume discounts, customers who buy the Java Enterprise System and want the Java desktop solution as well can get it for an additional $50 per employee per year. “So, for $150 a year, customers get solutions for the server and desktop,” she said.

      Sun has simplified “every facet—all the integration, all the pricing. This is an integrated and integratable solution. Its also a single SKU, which simplifies the order process,” she added. Many of its customers are running a range of legacy systems, and Sun does not expect them to just throw those out overnight. “This is another option for them over time. It is not our goal to declare that ours is the only way,” van den Hoogen said.

      The Java Studio system, which is the new name for all the developer tools, will come in an Enterprise Edition, the development environment for developers to develop to the Java Enterprise System. There will also be a desktop version. Pricing for the Enterprise Edition is expected to be around $2,000 a seat; if the customer buys the Java Enterprise system, the cost would be an additional $5 per employee.

      At this time, Sun is only giving directional guidance around its plans for the Java Mobility System, which is targeted at the major carriers and content providers, as Java is pervasive in that space. The same applies to the Sun Java Card System, which is already being used by some 500,000 people globally; Sun is now putting together a system for them, she said.

      “But the pricing for these and what is in them will not be announced now, but further details can be expected within the next three to six months,” she said.

      Sun on Tuesday will also announce Sun N1 CenterRun. Executives will talk about the cost-savings that the more than 60 N1 customers, including Cingular Wireless and VeriSign, have already had by moving to the N1 model, van den Hoogen said.

      Discuss this in the eWeek forum.

      Peter Galli
      Peter Galli
      Peter Galli has been a technology reporter for 12 years at leading publications in South Africa, the UK and the US. He has comprehensively covered Microsoft and its Windows and .Net platforms, as well as the many legal challenges it has faced. He has also focused on Sun Microsystems and its Solaris operating environment, Java and Unix offerings. He covers developments in the open source community, particularly around the Linux kernel and the effects it will have on the enterprise. He has written extensively about new products for the Linux and Unix platforms, the development of open standards and critically looked at the potential Linux has to offer an alternative operating system and platform to Windows, .Net and Unix-based solutions like Solaris.

      Get the Free Newsletter!

      Subscribe to Daily Tech Insider for top news, trends & analysis

      Get the Free Newsletter!

      Subscribe to Daily Tech Insider for top news, trends & analysis

      MOST POPULAR ARTICLES

      Artificial Intelligence

      9 Best AI 3D Generators You Need...

      Sam Rinko - June 25, 2024 0
      AI 3D Generators are powerful tools for many different industries. Discover the best AI 3D Generators, and learn which is best for your specific use case.
      Read more
      Cloud

      RingCentral Expands Its Collaboration Platform

      Zeus Kerravala - November 22, 2023 0
      RingCentral adds AI-enabled contact center and hybrid event products to its suite of collaboration services.
      Read more
      Artificial Intelligence

      8 Best AI Data Analytics Software &...

      Aminu Abdullahi - January 18, 2024 0
      Learn the top AI data analytics software to use. Compare AI data analytics solutions & features to make the best choice for your business.
      Read more
      Latest News

      Zeus Kerravala on Networking: Multicloud, 5G, and...

      James Maguire - December 16, 2022 0
      I spoke with Zeus Kerravala, industry analyst at ZK Research, about the rapid changes in enterprise networking, as tech advances and digital transformation prompt...
      Read more
      Video

      Datadog President Amit Agarwal on Trends in...

      James Maguire - November 11, 2022 0
      I spoke with Amit Agarwal, President of Datadog, about infrastructure observability, from current trends to key challenges to the future of this rapidly growing...
      Read more
      Logo

      eWeek has the latest technology news and analysis, buying guides, and product reviews for IT professionals and technology buyers. The site’s focus is on innovative solutions and covering in-depth technical content. eWeek stays on the cutting edge of technology news and IT trends through interviews and expert analysis. Gain insight from top innovators and thought leaders in the fields of IT, business, enterprise software, startups, and more.

      Facebook
      Linkedin
      RSS
      Twitter
      Youtube

      Advertisers

      Advertise with TechnologyAdvice on eWeek and our other IT-focused platforms.

      Advertise with Us

      Menu

      • About eWeek
      • Subscribe to our Newsletter
      • Latest News

      Our Brands

      • Privacy Policy
      • Terms
      • About
      • Contact
      • Advertise
      • Sitemap
      • California – Do Not Sell My Information

      Property of TechnologyAdvice.
      © 2024 TechnologyAdvice. All Rights Reserved

      Advertiser Disclosure: Some of the products that appear on this site are from companies from which TechnologyAdvice receives compensation. This compensation may impact how and where products appear on this site including, for example, the order in which they appear. TechnologyAdvice does not include all companies or all types of products available in the marketplace.

      ×